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Welcome to the Novels WikiProject Collaboration of the Month! This effort seeks to identify articles within the field of literature and novels—including novels and novel series, novel characters, novellas and many others—that require improvement. Every month, a single article will be selected as the collaboration, and everyone will work to improve it as much as possible. (It has been requested we work on a number of articles from different genres at once to reflect interest diversity, that may be added later.) Editors are welcome to add their names to the list of regular contributors for project collaborations.
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[edit] Regular contributors
If you'd like to be a regular contributor for WikiProject Novels collaborations, feel free to add your name to the list below.
- Liveste (talk · contribs)
- Robert Waalk (talk · contribs) I think this is a good idea, I bet the other users just haven't seen it yet.
- Kevinalewis (talk · contribs)
- Raina noor (talk · contribs) Please add me to your list of regular contributors, I would like to work on this project, thanks
- Sabiona (talk · contribs)
[edit] Nominating articles
To nominate an article, add
===[[Name of article]]=== Nomination text. ~~~~ '''Support''' # ~~~~ '''Comments'''
at the bottom of the list of candidates, filling in the name of the article and the nomination text (which should indicate why the article would benefit from a collaboration and what needs to be improved). It is recommended that specific goals be given for new collaborations, such as "promoting to GA status", to help direct the efforts of contributors.
Please remember to add collaboration-candidate=yes to the {{NovelsWikiProject}} project banner at the top of the article's talk page (see the Project banner instructions for more details on the exact syntax).
[edit] Stalled nominations
Nominations which have "stalled" through lack of support are listed at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration/Stalled. Stalled nominations are those which have received no more than two votes of support (including the original nomination) during their first six months on the candidates list. Should a stalled nomination receive a third vote of support, its listing should return to the list of active candidates below as it may have sufficient community interest to be selected.
[edit] Candidates
[edit] Finnegans Wake
Joyce's final 1939 novel, which he took 17 years to compose, is one of the most famously difficult books ever written and really just one of the great unread classic novels. Considering how tall Joyce stands in 20th century literature, and what a vacuum of information surrounds the book, I reckon it'd be a good candidate for this project. I feel that only on a site like Wikipedia, which is founded on the concept of group work, could a truly thorough and informative article be written on such a comlex book, and through the method by which articles are composed here, a lot of hearsay and fuzzy notions about it could be stripped away. And especially given that its a novel that readers need info on to help them tackle it, if the article were to be of a high standard I'm sure it would be consulted often. I've been working on it myself for a while now, but I have to admit that alone, the task is proving too daunting, and I (and the article) could sorely use the help of some other, more experienced editors. My main problems have been summarising a plot which is so digressive, and so filled with events, in an informative but also concise and clear way. I also need the support of some editors to remove some content I find redundant, but whose authors are quite possessive of. And finally, while there are alot of sources, they probably need a more experienced eye cast over them to make sure they follow WP standards, are thorough enough, etc. It would be nice for it to get FA for its 70th anniversary next year, and there's more than enough material on it to perhaps achieve that, but the article needs to be edited and written in a much more rigorous fashion, by some more experienced editors.Warchef (talk) 22:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
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- Warchef (talk · contribs) (added by Maria; I presume that the nominator supports the nom. :))
- Yllosubmarine (talk · contribs)
Comments
- I was
forcedassigned to read Finnegan's Wake last year in my Joyce class. I somehow got through it and even kept my books. Will help where I can, although I'm still not certain what the damned thing is about. María (habla conmigo) 01:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC) - I dunno, it seems to have an extremely detailed and fairly well written article as it is. It is not in desperate need of work, and its not even one of Joyce's more notable works. That being said its no less important than some of mine, such as A Fable, or Humboldt's Gift, but hte problem is that those are notable and have almost no article to speak of, period, which is a problem. They're both takss too big for me, as Look Homeward, Angel proved to be when I basically did it alone, with the WikiNovels collaboration group sitting idlely dead at the reins and I just kind got gung ho and did a month's collaboration on my own.--Robert Waalk (talk) 02:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Although Robert's take on notability here I think is a bit harsh, however I quite agree about the article, it appears almost FA in quality. Purhaps just pushing it through the GA and FA process would be the real nature of the collaboration. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with everyone else - that's a pretty solid article. I do also disagree with RW about notability - Joyce wrote four works of prose fiction (besides the unfinished Stephen Hero which was transformed into Portrait), and all are pretty clearly among the most notable works of fiction of the twentieth century - of much greater significance than A Fable (not generally considered a major Faulkner novel, even) - even if lots of people think FW is mostly bullshit. Joyce's only real minor works are Exiles and Chamber Music (and Stephen Hero, I guess). john k (talk) 02:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
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- I think you have misunderstood my sentiments on this issue. I was not concerned with notability, not at all. I know and respect Joyce as a great. What I meant was that Finnegan's Wake is not Joyce's most important work, that title would go to Ulysesses and The Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. Still very important, but what I found was that the article was very solid, it didn't really need a collaborative effort to improve. Could probably still use some major editing and touching up, but my point was that there are other notable, (notice notable, not as notable), articles that have almost nothing, nada. A Fable and Humboldt's Gift are two of these. Humboldt's gift is arguably Bellow's last important novel and winner of a Pulitzer, a very distinguished award, its also a very good work, I'd rank as my second favorite Bellow. Yet, there is absolutely no information, no real article to speak of, that was my point. A Fable too, the fact that a Faulkner novel article is almost non-existent is outrageous. I would definitely say A Fable is nowhere near Faulkner's best or most important novel, but I do think it very notable because Faulkner considered it his magnus opus and I feel that in the distant future in might be more highly considered. Not only that, but its also notable in that it is his only really important non-Yoknapatowpha work, and really his last actually significant work, if you discount the Reivers, which is truly not up to his standards and was a quickly, shoddily written book written by an author didn't really want to be writing. So, what I said wasn't about notability, but about need. I feel that there are other articles with much more need, which is the key word. I'd like to get them improved, worked on, and cleaned up.--Robert Waalk (talk) 02:05, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Sword of Shannara
A landmark epic fantasy novel, it was the first to be a big hit in the fantasy genre since a little-known trilogy entitled The Lord of the Rings. =) The novel was the first fantasy novel to appear on the New York Times bestseller list. Also, it was the first of twenty-three NYT bestsellers for its author, Terry Brooks.
Currently, Sword is a good article and is close (well, in my opinion) to being featured, but it has failed two recent FAC's (one at the end of August, one at the end of September). Specific tasks for the article would include copy-editing, shortening the plot summary (if possible), hunting down at least one or two of the sources that are listed on the talk page and (pipe dream?) getting one or two images of the artwork that was put in the first edition books by the Brothers Hildebrandt. —the_ed17— 04:19, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] The Golden Notebook
This is Nobel Prize Winner Doris Lessing's breakout book. It's one of the most widely read books by a British author and the only work of Lessing's that most people have read, and therefore deserves a larger and better written article in its prominence than it has. Its a landmark work of femnist fiction and social literature, and is an internationally recognized classic that will likely go down as one of the major books of the 20th Centry. It has a great deal of need for improvement. Currently it is just an unorganized mess, lightly sorted, and with a poor plot summary, little history and background on it, not critical history, and no critical analysis of the book, as well as no impact and influence section. --Robert Waalk (talk) 00:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Robert Waalk (talk · contribs)
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[edit] The Adventures of Augie March
Allow to toss in another option. This is widly considered Saul Bellow's greatest novels, and one of the greatest novels of the 20th Century. As it is it is barely start class, bare referenced and with very little information. This should be a major priority and it does need a group effort to improve.--Robert Waalk (talk) 03:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Robert Waalk (talk · contribs)
- Kevinalewis (talk · contribs)
[edit] Current collaboration
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This is the current Novels WikiProject Collaboration of the Month! Please read the nomination text and help improve this article towards featured article standard. The next collaboration will be selected on 21 July 2009. (Vote here) |
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The next collaboration will hopefully be selected on 21 July 2009. The current time is 15:33, July 6, 2009.
[edit] The Tin Drum
This is perhaps the most important novel published in Germany since Hesse's The Glass Bead Game in the 1940s. As it is there is almost nothing, nothing to its article. Its been completely ignored. It, by itself, is the major reason Gunter Grass won the Nobel in 1999.--Robert Waalk (talk) 03:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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- Robert Waalk (talk · contribs)
- Kevinalewis (talk · contribs)
- Clem cowsie (talk · contribs)
[edit] History
[edit] Archives
[edit] Maintenance
At the beginning of every month, a new collaboration article should be selected. This should generally be the candidate with the most support (and the oldest candidate in case of a tie).
- To archive the current collaboration
- Remove
{{NovelsWikiProject Collaboration}}from the top of the current collaboration article. - Change the date details on the article talk page
past-collaboration=<start date>–<end date>in the {{NovelsWikiProject}} project banner to include the end date. - Add the current article to the bottom of the history section.
- Move the current article's nomination text to the archive.
- To select the new collaboration
- Add
{{NovelsWikiProject Collaboration}}to the top of the new article. - Move the new article's nomination text to the "Current collaboration" section.
- Update Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration/Current to point to the new article.
- Update Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration/NextDate to use the next vote date.
- Replace
collaboration-candidate=yeswithpast-collaboration=<start date>–<end date>in the {{NovelsWikiProject}} banner at the top of the new article's talk page. The "<end-date>" element should read "open" to start with.
- Notify other members of the WikiProject
- Add
{{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration/Notice|Name of article}} ~~~~to the talk pages of users who supported the new article. - Add a post on the GeneralForum advertising the new collaboration to project members.
- Notify any relevant task forces of the current collaboration.
- Notify regular contributors of the new collaboration of the month.
