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Karanacs is busy in real life due to a new baby and may not respond swiftly to queries. Please excuse any responses that make no sense. They can likely be blamed on (your choice of) lack of sleep, spit-up on the keyboard, baby crying in my ear, or inability to think about anything but babies.

	Fragmented conversations hurt my brain.
	In an effort to keep conversations together, I will likely respond on this page if you begin a conversation here. If I've begun a conversation on your talk page, I'll watchlist that page until you respond.

Note: I usually hide from Wikipedia on weekends, so if you leave a message on the weekend you will likely not get a response until Mondays.

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[edit] Note to self:images

Note to me. Per User:TenPoundHammer/Country, country music artist articles need pictures. I need to go through my photo albums and see if I can find any useful ones. Karanacs (talk) 16:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Map request

My apologies for not responding to you in a timely manner! I have a bad habit of reading a post on my talk page at work and then forgetting about it later when I get home... I would be delighted to take a look at creating a map for Fredonian Rebellion, but it may need to wait until next weekend - I've had little time to do anything but flip through my watchlist of late. There is no need to improve one of my favorite articles; you've been specifically targeting them for years.. :) Kuru ^talk 22:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! Thank you :) Karanacs (talk) 13:53, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Note

I don't want to make it seem like people shouldn't speak if they feel a situation warrants it. I just want people to know that it can lead to problems, especially when it is a group of people that say the same thing against one person who feels intimidated. In such situations, it would seem appropriate for only one or two people to speak up (i.e. don't use too much force). You want the other side to focus on your words and not be distracted by other matters, no? Anyway, the focus is on being objective instead of subjective, and perception is key. Once another side things that you are attacking them, the situation cannot be resolved until it is deescalated. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

This discussion probably belongs on the workshop page, but while I agree that it shouldn't seem that one is attacking the other side, I think your proposal is unworkable. If a lot of people genuinely feel that there is a problem with X's behavior or disagree with Y's policy interpretation, they need to speak up (calmly and neutrally), otherwise it seems like it's just A vs X, and X can ignore A because A is obviously in the minority. Karanacs (talk) 19:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Kareena Kapoor

Hi. I've recently been developing this article, very tough writing an article on a Bollywood actress and the amount of reliable sources on the subjects is pretty restrictive! i was wondering if you could have a look at the Kareena Kapoor and let me know if it is worth putting up for FAC. It possibly needs a further copyedit as do a lot of articles at FAC but let me know if you think it has any potential anyway. The content is similar to Preity Zinta article which is an FA, but I think it may need a final polish for grammar/MOS errors and a copyedit by fresh eyes? If you could raise my awareness of any issues now that you think would prevent it from being promoted I'd be deeply grateful if you could look into it. Best regards. Dr. Blofeld (talk) 21:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I will definitely take a look, hopefully by the end of the week. Karanacs (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Cheers. I'll try to get one or two others to copyedit it in the meantime. Best.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 21:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi did you look at the article? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 11:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

sorry, unexpected illness on Friday and then visiting family. I'll get to this no later than tomorrow - today if FAC promotions/archives don't take too long. Karanacs (talk) 13:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, hope you are better. Thanks Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 17:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

You have good timing - I am actually halfway through the article right now. Comments to be posted shortly. Karanacs (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your comments. Good points on most. Rediff.com is one of the very few sites which meets our guidelines for Bollywood. It is used in the Preity Zinta article for instance. Very few sites on Bollywood related articles are reliable as you can imagine so finding sources was difficult but there shouldn't be any problems with them. I'm not Indian myself but I believe you have identified a number of culture differences which make some of the article seem redundant to us westerners such as the kissing scandal etc. You must have heard about the Shilpa Shetty Richard Gere incident? Also it is the norm for Bollywood actors to appear in stage shows and sing. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:03, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Rediff's been considered reliable for most things (I wouldn't trust it if it was the only site saying someone was an ax murderer, but for most stuff it's okay.) I have it on my "okay" list... somewhere. Ealdgyth - Talk 18:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Well we don't regard it as the first port of call for sourcing but yes it is an adequate source. Karen, I and a few others have made some changes to the article and I believe that we have addressed most of your concerns. I did a lot of cutting down the unnecesarily long quotes and sentences earlier and changing the sentence structure a little to flow better. Part of the media section may seme like trivia but these things are also covered in the Preity Zinta and Angelina Jolie about polls. Actually I did a lot of work previously to cut down what was once a huge paragraph of polls so what we have now is a summary of the most notable. With some minor edits I think this is ready for FAC now. Can you see any difference? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Continued problems with unresponsive editor Indianwhite

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Continued problems with unresponsive editor Indianwhite. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 19:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

[edit] WOW...

Hey dear Karanacs...

Amazing review on Kareena Kapoor. I'm really impressed with your way of paying attention to the smallest of deatails. Will be obviously addrssed, thanks. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FAC pr/ar

Hey, Karanacs, thanks for taking care of things so well on your own! Would you mind doing another week alone? I should be ready to read FAC by next weekend (June 5, 6, 7). All the best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I'm glad you are feeling up to websurfing! Take good care of yourself. Karanacs (talk) 13:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm working on the trivials, but not ready to read an entire page of FAC ... don't suppose too many others understand how taxing that is :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello Karanacs, do you think it would be possible to do the FAC closures as early as possible today? The second round of the Wikipedia:WikiCup ends today, and we're just waiting for FAC closures so that any contestant that has an FAC pass today can claim it for round 2. Thanks if possible,  iMatthew :  Chat  12:19, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I believe her response would be that you should get out there and add comments so that she can better decide to promote or archive :P --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 13:04, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Why do I have to review them? I'm simply asking if you could do closures a bit early, as it would be helpful to us.  iMatthew :  Chat  14:41, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm about to do them right now...sorry, I've been offline for over 24 hours (more visitors!). Karanacs (talk) 21:08, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I've got internet access back now so I should be able to contribute. Raul654 (talk) 21:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Image question

Hey, Karanacs. Do you have the back image of File:PostcardTheodoreRooseveltSpeechAtTheAlamo.jpg? That would help to verify that the view number. The eBay site is no longer valid. Jappalang (talk) 22:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't. Someone else had uploaded the image, so I have to go by their description of what was on it. Karanacs (talk) 21:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I see Noroton is still active. Might he have the image or other information to help? Alternatively, do you have access to A compilation of the messages and speeches of Theodore Roosevelt, 1901-1905 where it is claimed the picture was taken (i.e. can you confirm if the photo was published in there)? Jappalang (talk) 15:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The photo itself wasn't published in the book (I may need to make that more clear). A similar picture was published, showing about half of what is in the postcard (but, unfortunately, not the Alamo itself). I will contact the uploader and see if he has more info. I was worried that this one wouldn't fly. Karanacs (talk) 15:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Texans!

I read a malapropism in The Onion years ago that stuck with me for some reason. A fake editorial was lamenting the passing of Selena with the headline, "Selena, Queen of Texaco Music". I found that deliciously funny, not that Selena died (Mrs. Moni would certainly kill me; her adoration of Selena runs deep) but the Texaco part. At any rate, here on the Random Hour, Look what I did. And specifically, have you any images of West Texas landscape, perhaps with storms off in the distance? I recall an analogy between Orbison's music and growing storms in the distance coming nearer until it crashed over your head. I have to find that quote, but I'm gonna! --Moni3 (talk) 16:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Not more Selena! She used to live in the area where I live now, and one of my friends is lobbying me to create a museum in her honor; this comes up Every Single Time I see him (he's a real smart-aleck in general). Maybe my friend and Mrs. Moni can work on that project together ;) I'm impressed with the Roy rewrite! I've only been to West Texas once, and I don't think we took pictures - it's not the most photogenic location. You might want to ask at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Texas Tech University - the geography around Lubbock should be similar, and someone there could probably take a picture for you. Karanacs (talk) 17:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for coming out

I would like to thank you for coming out and participating in my Request for Adminship, which closed unsuccessfully at (48/8/6) based on my withdrawal. I withdrew because in my opinion I need to focus on problems with my content contributions before I can proceed with expanding my responsibilities. Overall I feel that the RfA has improved me as an editor and in turn some articles which in my eyes is successful. Thank you again for your participation. Cheers and happy editing.--kelapstick (talk) 18:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Jackie Robinson

I noticed you've taken the Jackie Robinson nomination off the FAC page, and the nomination has been archived. I just wanted to know, if possible, whether the the FA nomination was rejected because of the "fair-use" image issues, other issues, or combination thereof. That would dictate whether I decide to re-work and re-nominate or not. Thanks for your review. I know it was a lengthy one. BillTunell (talk) 15:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the nomination had gotten so long that it was turning off other reviewers, which would have made it impossible to gain consensus support. Generally, we don't restart a nomination unless all of the image issues have been ironed out, and since that was the sticking point in the long discussions I couldn't restart it either. I encourage you to work with image experts to try to satisfy the concerns about the fair use rationales, and then try again in a few weeks. Without the distraction of the images, the article should attract other reviews. Karanacs (talk) 16:05, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. From my experience with the Robinson article and my review of ten or tweleve other FAC archives, it appears to me that if the article has any non-free images, it will always receive opposition from some quarter or another. If it is possible to obtain FA status over these objections, I'd consider re-nominating. Otherwise I really don't have any interest in doing so. The process inevtiably seems to devolve into philosophical interpretations of what images are "significant" undrr NFCC criterion #8, which is an unresovlable discussion. Is there any discussion you know of by wikipedia bigwigs to clarify criterion #8 to avoid this sort of thing? Thanks again for your efforts. BillTunell (talk) 16:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

May I also suggest you not bold your replies? I found the large amount of bolding on the FAC page to be incredibly distracting. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Another nominator suggested I do that to distinguish nominator's comments from others. But if it's distracting I'll elimniate boldface from now on.BillTunell (talk) 16:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for kind words, I've been doing a bit at GA too, since I'm aware that reviewing slackens off in the (northern) summer. It's not altruism - the ulterior motive is that I've got a couple of GANs that I want to get moving through GA before going to FAC (: jimfbleak (talk) 18:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Woody Guthrie

I have nominated Woody Guthrie for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.—141.155.159.210 (talk) 12:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of "Nicholas Thompson" from Wikipedia English

Hi, I apologise if I'm not contacting you, Karanacs, in the appropriate manner. My name is Nicholas Thompson (NicholasSThompson on Wikipedia) and I just noticed lots of traffic to someone by that name on searches for Nicholas Thompson on Wikipedia English. Obviously I'm curious and apparently you were the editor who deleted the Nicholas Thompson entry. I know there is a Wired Magazine editor with the name... However, maybe there is someone else I should know about. Well, thanks if you can tell me what was deleted (I'm not too good with using Wikipedia but maybe you know a trick or can remember). Please email me at pingnick at indiatimes dot com or just respond here if that's what you usually do. Thanks!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NicholasSThompson (talk • contribs) 17:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure which article you are referring to that I would have deleted. There is currently an article on a Nicholas Thompson (a golfer), and although it appears that was previously deleted in 2006, I didn't do so. If you have the actual article name that I deleted, I'd be happy to take a look and tell you what the article was about. Karanacs (talk) 18:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh - this is weird - Nicholas Thompson here again. This is odd... The traffic statistics website links to Nicholas "thompson" with a small "t" [1]. Nice to see the golfer. I wonder who it says you deleted... Maybe someone way back in 2006? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.20.75 (talk) 08:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification - the lower case "t" actually does go to a different article that I deleted last June. I took a quick look, and that article was a few sentences about a high school student. His biggest claim to fame was that he had a beautiful girlfriend - that is why the article got deleted. Karanacs (talk) 13:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gulfton, Houston

Are you busy at the moment? When you get the chance, please respond on the FAC page. Thank you WhisperToMe (talk) 19:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FAC note

Karen, I'm not sure if I've ever mentioned ... I think the underscores cause a problem for GimmeBot, so I watch out for them.[2] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I didn't realize that...will make sure and watch it! Thanks Karanacs (talk) 13:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Still lazy baby, huh? Things so comfy inside there that he/she doesn't wanna come out and play? Ealdgyth - Talk 13:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Technically, I still have about 5 weeks until due date, but last baby totally ignored her due date (she was born without the gene for patience), so I've never actually been this pregnant before. I can't say I like it much. I didn't know feet/ankles could get so big! Karanacs (talk) 13:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, could be worse. Keep in mind our mare that just foaled was two weeks OVER... so you're still not as bad as her. (And she got swelling on her belly she was so preggo). And since *I* went to the day before my due date, I know all about how big your ankles can get! Ealdgyth - Talk 14:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Fantasy Black Channel FAC

Hi, I believe me and various copy-editors have addressed your objection concerns. I would appreciate it if you revisited the article and responded. Thanks. Rafablu88 (talk) 15:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

It's on my list to revisit. I'm fighting a head cold and wanted to get my brain working a little better before I reread it so I can be more fair. Karanacs (talk) 15:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I hope you feel better. I think the Texas heat intensifies every summer, which doesn't help matters at all. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the good wishes :) I'm highly allergic to mold and I can't take my allergy medication until after baby arrives. That means, like clockwork for the last few months, I've gotten a cold approximately 1-2 weeks after a heavy rain. I'm going to buy stock in Kleenex. Karanacs (talk) 15:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Similar good wishes from me. Hope you feel better soon and also take all the time you need. Rafablu88 (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-FAC reivew request

Hey there! I'm preparing 2009 Orange Bowl for FAC as the final element needed for a Virginia Tech Hokies bowl games featured topic, and I was hoping you might have time to take a look at it before I submit it. I know you're busy both here and IRL, so it's no big deal if you can't get to it, but I know you're familiar with college football and would be a better reviewer than most. Thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 04:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll do my best to get to that soon. I enjoyed watching the game which will make reading the article more fun :) Karanacs (talk) 14:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

That makes two of us! JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I hsven't gotten to this - real life interfered! I probably won't have time to review any articles for a few weeks. Karanacs (talk) 15:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I've posted a reply for you at User_talk:Buaidh#Outline_of_Texas. (eom)

[edit] FAC

Hi Karen, I don't know who's doing the promotion this weekend, but I'll just save time by posting a message here. An article I have at FAC currently has five supports, and I would like to point that out, since I tend to have a reputation for long FAC periods. :) ceranthor 12:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Loihi

Sorry if this seems buggy, but can you review this article? It needs some fresh eyes, and who better then someone who is a FA delagate :) ResMar 17:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Real life is keeping me pretty busy right now - I probably won't have time to review any articles for a few weeks. Karanacs (talk) 15:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] You have been nominated for membership of the Established Editors Association

The Established editors association will be a kind of union of who have made substantial and enduring contributions to the encyclopedia for a period of time (say, two years or more). The proposed articles of association are here - suggestions welcome.

If you wish to be elected, please notify me here. If you know of someone else who may be eligible, please nominate them here

Discussion is here.Peter Damian (talk) 20:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/H.M.S. Pinafore/archive1

There is apparently some confusion at Pinafore over whether or not the "!supporters" have reviewed the sources. What is the best way to alert you to the fact that sources have been reviewed? As I told Sandy, I do not say that an article is "well-researched" unless I have checked the sources and I do not make comments in my statement about the sources unless I have looked at them. Would it be best if in the future I said "I have looked at each source and they are all reliable"? I can't remember a time when I supported an article without looking at the sources, but I can start appending this statement to all of my support !votes to make it explicitly clear. Whatever would make it easier for you - please let me know. Awadewit (talk) 18:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I generally interpret a comment that an article is "well-researched" to mean that the reviewer checked the sources. Karanacs (talk) 15:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FAC withdrawal

I'm withdrawing United States Senate election in California, 1950 as a valid objection has been made that I can't remedy until next month, due to the need to view actual hard copies. I will renom in late July. I've also left a note on Sandy's talk page and proceeded with my next nomination, Matthew Boulton, so please one of you archive it when you get a chance.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I took care of the archiving. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Dabomb. Karanacs (talk) 15:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. How's things? Dabomb87 (talk) 04:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above.

• Within 15 days of this decision, Mattisse shall, in conjunction with one or more mentors or advisers, submit to this Committee for approval a plan to govern and guide her future editing with the continued assistance of those mentors or advisers. The plan shall seek to preserve Mattisse's valuable and rewarding contributions to Wikipedia while avoiding future disputes and the types of interactions that have been hurtful for herself and others. As a starting point in developing the plan, Mattisse and her mentors or advisors should consider the suggestions made by various users on the workshop page of this case, including but not limited to Mattisse's taking wikibreaks at times of stress, avoiding or limiting Mattisse's participation on certain pages, Mattisse's refraining from making any comments regarding the motivations or good faith of other users, and Mattisse's disengaging from interactions that become stressful or negative. The plan should also address how any lapses by Mattisse from the standards of behavior described in the plan shall be addressed. (Note: As reflected in the findings, Mattisse prepared a plan as required by this paragraph while the proposed decision was pending. See next paragraph.)
• User:Mattisse/Plan (version as of 24 June) is enacted as a baseline. Amendments to the plan may occur by consensus of the mentors, whereby the changes become provisional. At the discretion of the mentors, or if there are significant objections by the community, the provisional changes will be reviewed by the Arbitration Committee at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment.
• Should Mattisse fail to submit a satisfactory plan under remedy 1 within 15 days of this decision, she shall not edit Wikipedia until she does so, except with permission of this Committee. (Note: As reflected in the findings, Mattisse prepared a plan, as required by remedy 1, while the proposed decision was pending. See preceding paragraphs.)

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Tiptoety ^talk 04:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Keep an eye out

User:Shappy/Amazing Race Wikipedia. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Incentive system for reviewers, again

WT:FAR. To be frank, I think there is 0% chance that the average detail of reviews will decrease. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] GA reassessment of Mary Higgins Clark

I have conducted a reassessment of this article and have some issues that need addressing, which can be found at Talk:Mary Higgins Clark/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 08:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FAC today

Doing OK today? If you can't get through, I can go through after I get in late tonight ... just checking! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm almost done reading through the articles to be promoted. I'll remove those from WP:FAC in a few minutes but will have to wait an hour or so before adding the articles to WP:FA (must pick up older child from day care). Karanacs (talk) 21:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

OK ... give a holler if you need help ... I'm out for the evening! Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)