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[edit] Tribute in the Modern Era
Is there any evidence for the modern tribute information? It really needs citations.Paladinwannabe2 15:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Korean POV
[edit] Korean Source
Does this Korean source [2] being ritten, "Japan had to pay tributes to China from ancient time"? And, is there an authority in the Web site in South Korea? --Eichikiyama (talk) 17:44, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, that IS from a Korean reputable encyclopedia named Encyclopedia of Korean Culture which deals with Korean and some of neighboring countries such as Japan and China. The source was initially added by Japanese users, not me, just for your information.--Caspian blue (talk) 17:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for the answer. However, Your source is quoted from Empas "http://100.empas.com/dicsearch/pentry.html?i=257083 empas 조공 tribute" Empas is not Encyclopedia of Korean Culture.
- "Japan had to pay tributes to China from ancient time". Does the evidence of this explanation exist only on the Web site in South Korea?(Does it exist in the history document of China and Japan?)--Eichikiyama (talk) 18:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Look closely to the site again. Empas is one of the biggest web portal in South Korea and hosts the "encyclopedia" by contract just like MSN Encarta Japan. The encyclopedia also publishes the same contents in paper as well.--Caspian blue (talk) 18:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. I do not understand Hangul. It made a mistake for that. By the way, when you write the article on Japan, could you teach the reason to use Encalta of South Korea? --Eichikiyama (talk) 18:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sigh. On Korean articles which has absolutely unrelated to Japan have a lot of Japanese citations attached as sources. Do you think we have to remove all the Japanese sources from such articles? I don't think so. If you're referring to onigiri, because the dish is getting popular in South Korea, and the Korean naming is quite different from Japanese original name. Therefore it is worthy to implement the content with any reliable source, so I used the Korean source. If you can find a reliable English source, please add it to the article.--Caspian blue (talk) 18:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please teach the part being written that the article on the Empas is "Japan had to pay tributes to China from ancient time". Is not the source written "from ancient time to Kofun Perido"? --Eichikiyama (talk) 12:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please check the history of the article first before complaining something to me as I repeatedly have said to you. The Korean information is already on an edit summary.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- We do not understand the Web site Empas written by Hangul. Therefore, I am asking you for the confirmation of the source. Is not the source written "from ancient time to Kofun Perido"? --Eichikiyama (talk) 14:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Who are "we"? It is written in Korean language. Hangul is a writing sytem of Korean language. None has inserted "Kofun period" to the article. You can freely check the history of the article by yourself and confirm it!--Caspian blue (talk) 15:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- "We" is people who do not understand Korean language.
- OK, As for your source, the period that Japan gave China is not being written. In the Korean Web site ”Empas”, knowledge of the Japanese history is insufficient. Therefore I will offer the reliable source of information. Thank You --Eichikiyama (talk) 15:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- -_-;; Did you even look at the history of the article?[3] Besides, you're the one who keeps asking about the Korean source that Japanese users inserted. Well, since you're not so satisfied with the source, I will implement from reliable English sources. I believe you will also do the same since many people don't read Japanese. Regards (I already found a couple of sources).--Caspian blue (talk) 15:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- When I write the Korean history, I quote a Korean history document. And I quote a Japanese history document when I write the Japanese history. And, when the translation and the explanation of the source are requested, I do not reject it. When I explain Mongolia and China, the Japanese history, I do not quote a document written in the Hangul Alphabet. --Eichikiyama (talk) 16:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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- Eyerolling* hmmm, please add citations if you have anything useful to make the article enhanced. So by your logic, Japanese sources should be completely moved from Korean history articles if Japan has nothing to do with the subject. Good to know.--Caspian blue (talk) 16:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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- When I write the Korean history, I quote a Korean history document. And I quote a Japanese history document when I write the Japanese history. And, when the translation and the explanation of the source are requested, I do not reject it. When I explain Mongolia and China, the Japanese history, I do not quote a document written in the Hangul Alphabet. --Eichikiyama (talk) 16:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- -_-;; Did you even look at the history of the article?[3] Besides, you're the one who keeps asking about the Korean source that Japanese users inserted. Well, since you're not so satisfied with the source, I will implement from reliable English sources. I believe you will also do the same since many people don't read Japanese. Regards (I already found a couple of sources).--Caspian blue (talk) 15:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Who are "we"? It is written in Korean language. Hangul is a writing sytem of Korean language. None has inserted "Kofun period" to the article. You can freely check the history of the article by yourself and confirm it!--Caspian blue (talk) 15:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- We do not understand the Web site Empas written by Hangul. Therefore, I am asking you for the confirmation of the source. Is not the source written "from ancient time to Kofun Perido"? --Eichikiyama (talk) 14:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please check the history of the article first before complaining something to me as I repeatedly have said to you. The Korean information is already on an edit summary.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please teach the part being written that the article on the Empas is "Japan had to pay tributes to China from ancient time". Is not the source written "from ancient time to Kofun Perido"? --Eichikiyama (talk) 12:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sigh. On Korean articles which has absolutely unrelated to Japan have a lot of Japanese citations attached as sources. Do you think we have to remove all the Japanese sources from such articles? I don't think so. If you're referring to onigiri, because the dish is getting popular in South Korea, and the Korean naming is quite different from Japanese original name. Therefore it is worthy to implement the content with any reliable source, so I used the Korean source. If you can find a reliable English source, please add it to the article.--Caspian blue (talk) 18:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. I do not understand Hangul. It made a mistake for that. By the way, when you write the article on Japan, could you teach the reason to use Encalta of South Korea? --Eichikiyama (talk) 18:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Look closely to the site again. Empas is one of the biggest web portal in South Korea and hosts the "encyclopedia" by contract just like MSN Encarta Japan. The encyclopedia also publishes the same contents in paper as well.--Caspian blue (talk) 18:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
You showed a Korean Web site "Empas" to the source of information of "Japan had to pay tributes to China from ancient time". However, the Web site is written in the Hangul Alphabet. We do not understand the Hangul Alphabet. Therefore I ask you for translation. Is not the source written "from ancient time to Kofun Period"? --Eichikiyama (talk) 17:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Just ancient time, not to "Kofun period" as I said before. Just saying "I", I'm not included in your definition of "we" since there is none except you and me. I already suggested you to look into the history, why wouldn't you do so but keep continuing this unnecessary discussion? As I said before, please DO edit with RELIABLE sources. And don't complain about the Korean sources that Japanese editors who can read Korean or know how to use a translation tool added.--Caspian blue (talk) 17:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- OK, The goal has come into view. Then does the Korean Web site written in the Hangul Alphabet write that "Japan had to pay tributes to China from the ancient times to the present age?" --Eichikiyama (talk) 20:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- Where did you get the "to the present age?" -_-;; Please do not add something unreferenced which can mislead the article have "original research". I think to end this silly dispute, I or you have to add "English sources". Are you okay with the suggestion?--Caspian blue (talk) 20:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- OK, The goal has come into view. Then does the Korean Web site written in the Hangul Alphabet write that "Japan had to pay tributes to China from the ancient times to the present age?" --Eichikiyama (talk) 20:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
[edit] to User:Kuebie
you deleted this[4]. What is the reason ?--Propastop (talk) 02:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
